Comments on: Next They’ll Want Health Care http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/ I go many places Wed, 23 May 2012 17:57:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Deogolwulf http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147332 Deogolwulf Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:10:56 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147332 I shall have no more dealings with you, Hodges, with your twisting words and your abhorrent views about non-existent aliens, who should gain our sympathy not provoke our hatred. I shall have no more dealings with you, Hodges, with your twisting words and your abhorrent views about non-existent aliens, who should gain our sympathy not provoke our hatred.

]]> By: Horace Jeffery Hodges http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147245 Horace Jeffery Hodges Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:30:48 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147245 Dear Deogolwulf: Racist, I? Impossible. I have just learned that the "unevolved space aliens from the planet Quantgenecon" do not exist. How can I be racist toward those inferior aliens since they do not exist? You are punishing a putative thought crime, you facist! Just like those fascists the inferior Quantgeneconians would do if they existed! Perhaps you are a putative Quantgeneconian! Best Regards, Jeffery Hodges * * * Dear Deogolwulf:

Racist, I? Impossible. I have just learned that the “unevolved space aliens from the planet Quantgenecon” do not exist. How can I be racist toward those inferior aliens since they do not exist? You are punishing a putative thought crime, you facist! Just like those fascists the inferior Quantgeneconians would do if they existed! Perhaps you are a putative Quantgeneconian!

Best Regards,

Jeffery Hodges

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]]> By: Deogolwulf http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147204 Deogolwulf Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:46:47 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147204 Prof. Hodges, your comment is plainly racist, as you well know. I request that you desist from all further comments until you have been enlightened as to just how vile and offensive your benighted views are. Prof. Hodges, your comment is plainly racist, as you well know. I request that you desist from all further comments until you have been enlightened as to just how vile and offensive your benighted views are.

]]> By: JK http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147185 JK Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:08:38 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147185 I sure am glad the opthamologist dilated my eyes at noon-thirty. <em>And</em>, that I took typing in High School. Thank you Mrs. DeShazo. I sure am glad the opthamologist dilated my eyes at noon-thirty.

And, that I took typing in High School.

Thank you Mrs. DeShazo.

]]> By: Charles http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147184 Charles Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:35:29 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147184 I think it's pretty evident that all the posters above who have crawled out of the woodwork are, in fact, extraterrestrials. And they are led by Dr. Doom. I think it’s pretty evident that all the posters above who have crawled out of the woodwork are, in fact, extraterrestrials.

And they are led by Dr. Doom.

]]> By: Horace Jeffery Hodges http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147176 Horace Jeffery Hodges Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:40:50 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147176 It's racist to call <i>all</i> space aliens racist! Some are, some aren't. You -- and you know who you are -- should check your facts first! Only those unevolved space aliens from the planet Quantgenecon are racist, and a simple genetic test establishes who they are. Jeffery Hodges * * * It’s racist to call all space aliens racist! Some are, some aren’t. You — and you know who you are — should check your facts first! Only those unevolved space aliens from the planet Quantgenecon are racist, and a simple genetic test establishes who they are.

Jeffery Hodges

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]]> By: Holy Prepuce! http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147169 Holy Prepuce! Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:04:04 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147169 W (and others): This is why I think the CNN headline "Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe" was problematic. It mixes two very different questions: (1) Is there other (intelligent) life in the universe vs. (2) have extraterrestrials visted Earth? The sheer size of the universe, combined with the example of Earth that life can arise <i>somewhere</i>, suggests that the answer to #1 is probably yes. Despite what this particular former astronaut has to say, I think that on balance the answer to #2 is probably no. W (and others): This is why I think the CNN headline “Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe” was problematic. It mixes two very different questions: (1) Is there other (intelligent) life in the universe vs. (2) have extraterrestrials visted Earth? The sheer size of the universe, combined with the example of Earth that life can arise somewhere, suggests that the answer to #1 is probably yes. Despite what this particular former astronaut has to say, I think that on balance the answer to #2 is probably no.

]]> By: jeanmichelo http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147163 jeanmichelo Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:56:02 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147163 We need to be wise at this stage and we need to ask our government to invetigate those allegations. How about we ask Obama for a reform to disclose everything about ufo. This should be the starting point. Too many claims in the world. Are they all wrong? We need to be wise at this stage and we need to ask our government to invetigate those allegations. How about we ask Obama for a reform to disclose everything about ufo. This should be the starting point. Too many claims in the world. Are they all wrong?

]]> By: Deogolwulf http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147155 Deogolwulf Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:50:11 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147155 Dennis, It is racist to say that all space aliens are racist. And the only person here who says that they are racist is you. You racist. Dennis,

It is racist to say that all space aliens are racist. And the only person here who says that they are racist is you. You racist.

]]> By: MikeZ http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147153 MikeZ Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:50:32 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147153 And I thought the controversy stirred up here would be about illegal immigration. Go figure. - M And I thought the controversy stirred up here would be about illegal immigration. Go figure.

- M

]]> By: W http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147152 W Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:23:20 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147152 Hi Lance, Yes I certainly see the difference!! I see a few other thoughts since my post that make a lot of sense too, why if aliens were going to land would they have the propensity to only land / crash where there exists the ability to cover the event up, rather lucky if that is the case. My argurment is just that while I have never had any encounters of the third kind, the possibility that life has risen in the universe beyone our ability to authenticate it is a mute point. I read a newscientist article a while ago that said if the conditions for life are right on Earth, why would it not have risen more then once, in forms different then what we are accoustomed to. It went on to say, and I paraphrase, that we could look in more remote places on earth for such instances, one of which being the upper stratosphere. I also since that read that there was an experiment perfromed in Antartica I believe, with a balloon put into LEO by some Indian scientists, on return the scientists conducting the experiment found 3 new species of bacteria that are not found on the earth and are highly resistent to UV radiation...kind of what the previous article I mentioned was looking for. Here is a link: http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/Mar16_2009.htm If these completely different forms of life can exist so close to home, I find it very compelling to think that there are perhaps many more forms of life in our universe then we are privy to knowing about. My 2 cents! Hi Lance,

Yes I certainly see the difference!!

I see a few other thoughts since my post that make a lot of sense too, why if aliens were going to land would they have the propensity to only land / crash where there exists the ability to cover the event up, rather lucky if that is the case. My argurment is just that while I have never had any encounters of the third kind, the possibility that life has risen in the universe beyone our ability to authenticate it is a mute point.

I read a newscientist article a while ago that said if the conditions for life are right on Earth, why would it not have risen more then once, in forms different then what we are accoustomed to. It went on to say, and I paraphrase, that we could look in more remote places on earth for such instances, one of which being the upper stratosphere.

I also since that read that there was an experiment perfromed in Antartica I believe, with a balloon put into LEO by some Indian scientists, on return the scientists conducting the experiment found 3 new species of bacteria that are not found on the earth and are highly resistent to UV radiation…kind of what the previous article I mentioned was looking for.

Here is a link: http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/Mar16_2009.htm

If these completely different forms of life can exist so close to home, I find it very
compelling to think that there are perhaps many more forms of life in our universe then we are privy to knowing about.

My 2 cents!

]]> By: gmac http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147151 gmac Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:47:02 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147151 Hmmmm....we have problems with believing in life outside our own little corner of the universe that by the way is a rock orbiting a star like a billion other rocks the same distance from their stars in this galaxy alone...which is one of billions of other galaxies...but 90% of the planet believes in an all knowing, all seeing, omnipresent, omnipotent, benevolent god who watches our every move...and if we even think dark things will condemn us to eternal flame and damnation??? hmmmmm....as a thinking inquiring being...I'll take the life outside our planet...not sure about the intelligent part...but then again we were about as smart as your average house cat 10 million years ago...so who knows what the next 10 million will bring. Hmmmm….we have problems with believing in life outside our own little corner of the universe that by the way is a rock orbiting a star like a billion other rocks the same distance from their stars in this galaxy alone…which is one of billions of other galaxies…but 90% of the planet believes in an all knowing, all seeing, omnipresent, omnipotent, benevolent god who watches our every move…and if we even think dark things will condemn us to eternal flame and damnation??? hmmmmm….as a thinking inquiring being…I’ll take the life outside our planet…not sure about the intelligent part…but then again we were about as smart as your average house cat 10 million years ago…so who knows what the next 10 million will bring.

]]> By: JK http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147149 JK Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:27:15 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147149 Hi Dennis, I'm not about to argue with you on any forum. (I've seen what happens.) However your sentence: <em>"The Earth has the most intelligent beings in the universe."</em> I think that the opposite can be (at the same time) true too. Perhaps we can get the <em>Maverick Philosopher</em> over here to weigh in? Hi Dennis,

I’m not about to argue with you on any forum. (I’ve seen what happens.) However your sentence:

“The Earth has the most intelligent beings in the universe.”

I think that the opposite can be (at the same time) true too. Perhaps we can get the Maverick Philosopher over here to weigh in?

]]> By: Dennis Mangan http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147148 Dennis Mangan Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:20:21 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147148 Besides, space aliens are racists! Believing in them makes you one too! I trust that's the end of the argument. Besides, space aliens are racists! Believing in them makes you one too! I trust that’s the end of the argument.

]]> By: Lance http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147145 Lance Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:11:42 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147145 Hi W, I am amazed that people still get this issue mixed up. I do think the evidence that life could exist elsewhere in the universe is compelling. So I am a believer on that issue. That they came to Earth and have been flitting about in the sky for 60 years is another matter entirely. As an engineer, surely you see the difference? Lance Hi W,

I am amazed that people still get this issue mixed up.

I do think the evidence that life could exist elsewhere in the universe is compelling. So I am a believer on that issue.

That they came to Earth and have been flitting about in the sky for 60 years is another matter entirely. As an engineer, surely you see the difference?

Lance

]]> By: Holy Prepuce! http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147144 Holy Prepuce! Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:09:36 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147144 If we were really being visited by space aliens, what are the chances that they'd only ever land (or crash) in wealthy countries with the governmental resources to cover it up? Wouldn't they be just as likely to wind up in some third-world country whose military would never have the wherewithal to orchestrate such a massive deception? If we were really being visited by space aliens, what are the chances that they’d only ever land (or crash) in wealthy countries with the governmental resources to cover it up? Wouldn’t they be just as likely to wind up in some third-world country whose military would never have the wherewithal to orchestrate such a massive deception?

]]> By: Dennis Mangan http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147143 Dennis Mangan Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:07:52 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147143 Given that there ought to be civilizations that would be billions of years ahead of us in terms of the evolution of intelligent life, and with technology that would be literally almost beyond imagination, and that there are billions of potential planets on which they could live, the fact that we don't see them nor have they made any contact argues for their non-existence. The Earth has the most intelligent beings in the universe. Given that there ought to be civilizations that would be billions of years ahead of us in terms of the evolution of intelligent life, and with technology that would be literally almost beyond imagination, and that there are billions of potential planets on which they could live, the fact that we don’t see them nor have they made any contact argues for their non-existence. The Earth has the most intelligent beings in the universe.

]]> By: JK http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147142 JK Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:05:06 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147142 Oh my "Truth? Seeker?" Copy and paste at will from any of my above comments and then feel free to show me where I have attempted what you, Truth?Seeker? state here. Incidentally, this is copy and paste: <em>"Lance and JK this is not church and you have yet to show any proof that Christianity is real."</em> I do appreciate this little gem though, <em>"JK you would have to think long enough to be able to participate, since you have a tough time understanding reality very well."</em> Methinks you've been an abductee at some point? Oh my “Truth? Seeker?”

Copy and paste at will from any of my above comments and then feel free to show me where I have attempted what you, Truth?Seeker? state here. Incidentally, this is copy and paste:

“Lance and JK this is not church and you have yet to show any proof that Christianity is real.”

I do appreciate this little gem though, “JK you would have to think long enough to be able to participate, since you have a tough time understanding reality very well.”

Methinks you’ve been an abductee at some point?

]]> By: Malcolm http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147140 Malcolm Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:50:45 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147140 Arthur C. Clarke said: <blockquote><em>"Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the idea is quite staggering."</em></blockquote> Arthur C. Clarke said:

“Sometimes I think we’re alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we’re not. In either case, the idea is quite staggering.”

]]> By: W http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/comment-page-2/#comment-147139 W Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:29:33 +0000 http://malcolmpollack.com/2009/04/20/next-theyll-want-health-care/#comment-147139 Lance says: Yes, and most folks don’t believe in evolution either. Fortunately, science is not done by polls. What about the science of probability? Seeing as you believe in evolution, from a purely scientific standpoint, BTW I'm no UFO'ologists, I'm an engineer and have an appreciation for numbers, they are pretty unbiased in this debate. If the chance of there being another life bearing planet were say....extremely extremely small; when you factor in the sample size of the universe, infinitesimally huge, then life must have risen AT LEAST a few other times in the complete cosmos, whether or not in our neck of the universe could certainly be debated, but fans of science would have to agree that if there is even the most remote chance that it could happen (we are the proof of that), then it has happened elsewhere. Lance says: Yes, and most folks don’t believe in evolution either.

Fortunately, science is not done by polls.

What about the science of probability?

Seeing as you believe in evolution, from a purely scientific standpoint, BTW I’m no UFO’ologists, I’m an engineer and have an appreciation for numbers, they are pretty unbiased in this debate.

If the chance of there being another life bearing planet were say….extremely extremely small; when you factor in the sample size of the universe, infinitesimally huge, then life must have risen AT LEAST a few other times in the complete cosmos, whether or not in our neck of the universe could certainly be debated, but fans of science would have to agree that if there is even the most remote chance that it could happen (we are the proof of that), then it has happened elsewhere.

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