CNN is abuzz with interesting items today. Here’s one: former NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell is convinced that the US government is covering up the truth about extraterrestrial aliens, and claims that “there really is no doubt we are being visited”.
To have a bona-fide NASA astronaut making such assertions certainly lends a little gravitas to the we’re-not-alone camp, although according to this Wikipedia entry, Edgar Mitchell is not exactly a hard-nosed skeptic when it comes to fringe science and matters of the paranormal.
Anyway, they report, you decide. Story here.
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The truth is that the US government was even as far back as the late 40’s testing space capsules and rockets, which we would later use to get to the moon. We didn’t just come up with this tech out of thin air in the 60’s, we were already developing and testing it for years!
One of those capsules crashed near Roswell, Nm in July 47′ and it had Rhesus monkies in it. THose monkies were 3 feet high, badly burned with hair singed off, and their heads gortesquly swollen. Take that image and compare it to the 3 feet tall alien models we have today to see the resemblance.
Think about this also, what would a space capsule like the one we used to land on the moon look like to someone from the late forties? Especially a simple farmer, if he was indeed a simple little educated person.
This is and admittedly was used as disinformation by the CIA to explain away what is really going on, so that the Russian’s or others would continue to be led off track by the goverments REAL technological acheivements and current developments.
I guess that the truth had to come out eventually. I am an extraterrestrial. I’m not supposed to be here. My mother was intended to have only five sons, but I popped out by accident as the second son of six sons total. Yes, I’m an ‘extra’ earthling. There are others like me, too. We’re those extraterrestrials that you keep reading about.
Now, you know.
Jeffery Hodges
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And very occasionaly, we of the third rock from the sun might have a visitor hailing from an asteroid off the coast of mars. Or so I was told.
Good one Horace! Now we need to hear a post from an intro-terrestrial as opposed to an extro-terrestrial.
Old news people… Mitchell has said this so many times now, I’m surprised he hasn’t turned blue. Never seems to be a shortage of people that are clueless about this phenomenon.
CT, actually, “Horace” is my evil doppelganger. We happen to share the same name, so to distinguish myself from him, I go by “Jeffery.”
Jeffery Hodges
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Watch this folks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0hUgeQqRiA
My question is: who cares? Does anyone really care? Just a question. Don’t get mad.
Bababooey!
Fa fa fo-hi!
Ma ma monkey!
Aren’t you tired of these kinds of liberal lies?!
There is no life on Mars. No water = no life.
Our solor system is the only one. If aliens don’t come from Mars or Venus, there are no other planets that could have life. Evolution has been proven a hoax.
Aliens therefore are either A: liberal lies B: Demonic manifestations for the purposes of deception. As a Christian, I go with B. Get saved! Read the Bible! God has a Plan for YOU! He loves you! Don’t burn in Hades (Hell) Don’t be liberal! Vote PALIN when she runs next time!
Is this for real? If it an astronaut shouldn’t this get more press?
Its a procession of toads! You guys are all crazy.
I would have believed this type of stuff when I was an 8 year old. Some people are very gullible. But I’ll bet we’ll see aliens before we all get health care. (never)
Please, we have enough illegal aliens, we don’t need any of those to take our jobs to their galaxy for cheaper labor…LOL.
You people are all simple minded, to think that were the only ones in the universe. It doesn’t matter what kind of proof that anyone has or will ever have about life other then life on earth. Because people are scared to talk about it, let alone believe that we are being visited daily by other races. So go ahead and keep on laughing and keep to your simple comforting thoughts, when the time does come and life besides ourselves on earth decides to reveal themselves don’t whine and complain about how you never seen it coming, proof has been around for a very long time, you have just chosen not to notice us!
I dont believe we have evidence for UFOS
but I have never bothered looking either
NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell
EDUCATION: Bachelor of Science degree in Industrial Management from Carnegie Mellon University (1952); Bachelor of Science degree in Aeronautics from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School (1961); Doctorate of Science degree in Aeronautics and Astronautics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1964; Honorary Doctorates from New Mexico State University (1971), Carnegie-Mellon University (1971), University of Akron (1979) and Embry-Riddle University (1996).
HONORS AND AWARDS: Presidential Medal of Freedom. USN Distinguished Service Medal. NASA Distinguished Service Medal. NASA Distinguished Service Award. Three NASA Group Achievement Awards. USAF Aerospace Research Pilot School, First in Class Award. Medal of the City of New York. American Astronautical Society, Flight Achievement Award. Arnold Air Society, John F. Kennedy Award for Space Exploration. Carnegie Mellon University Alumni, Outstanding Man of the Year (1972). Kappa Sigma, Man of the Year Award (1972). Adventurers Club, Gold Medal Award for Exploration. Explorers Club, Lowell Thomas Award for Explorations in Human Consciousness (1980). Drexel University, Engineering and Science Award for Explorations in Consciousness (1974). Space Hall of Fame (inducted 1979). Astronaut Hall of Fame (inducted 1995). Nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize (2005).
EXPERIENCE: Mitchell’s experience includes Navy operational flight, test flight, engineering, engineering management, and experience as a college instructor. Mitchell came to the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston after graduating first in his class from the Air Force Aerospace Research Pilot School where he was both student and instructor.
He entered the Navy in 1952 and completed his basic training at the San Diego Recruit Depot. In May 1953, after completing instruction at the Officers’ Candidate School at Newport, Rhode Island, he was commissioned as an Ensign. He completed flight training in July 1954 at Hutchinson, Kansas, and subsequently was assigned to Patrol Squadron 29 deployed to Okinawa.
From 1957 to 1958, he flew A3 aircraft while assigned to Heavy Attack Squadron Two deployed aboard the USS BON HOMME RICHARD and USS TICONGEROGA; and he was a research project pilot with Air Development Squadron Five until 1959. From 1964 to 1965 he served as Chief, Project Management Division of the Navy Field Office for Manned Orbiting Laboratory. 1965-1966 was spent
I know for sure that we have not been visited
and I never graduated from high school
I have never tried investigating UFOs but I know they are not real.
I would find it to be a somewhat sad state of affairs if humans were the most intelligent life in the universe.
Great post!
It has got to be depressing for UFO believers and “researchers” to know that, after 60 years, we don’t know even one additional fact about UFO’s. I was a believer as a teen, but began to see that Ufology as a science makes for a pretty good casserole recipe.
Stephen Bassett, the organizer of the conference, is on the record saying that he does not care about the credibility of his “witnesses”. And he presents witnesses who are discredited, disheveled and disappointing. Some are known frauds.
Hilariously, at yesterday’s press conference, Bassett threatened the government with the release of embarrassing documents if they don’t precipitate the “disclosure event” by the end of May.
Somehow, I don’t think the government (or anyone) even noticed. And Bassett will go back to his borrowed couches and basement rooms until next year, when his credibility is sure to be somewhat less (and hey, it wasn’t very high anyway).
WANT TO SUPPORT THE MILITARY? DO YOU TRUST THEM?
Below is a list of Military/Government insiders and scientists who have made public statements that some of the UFOs do not come from Earth, but not all, they will also testify under oath that the government is covering up the reality of extra-terrestrial life.
Testimony that Explains the Secrecy
Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command
Lt. Col. Charles Brown: US Air Force (Ret.)
“Dr. B”
Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt: US Marine Corps
Maj. George A. Filer, III: US Air Force (Ret.)
Nick Pope: British Ministry of Defense Official
Larry Warren: US Air Force, Security Officer
Sgt. Clifford Stone: US Army
Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO Operative
A.H.: Boeing Aerospace Employee
Officer Alan Godfrey: British Police
Sgt. Karl Wolf: US Air Force
Ms. Donna Hare: NASA Employee
Mr. John Maynard: DIA Official
Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer
Glen Dennis: NM UFO Crash Witness
Sgt. Leonard Pretko: US Air Force
Dr. Roberto Pinotti: Italian UFO expert
Dr. Paul Czysz: McDonnell Douglas Career Engineer
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell
John Callahan: FAA Head of Accidents and Investigations
Michael Smith: US Air Force Radar Controller
Franklin Carter: US Navy Radar Technician
Neil Daniels: United Airlines Pilot
Lt. Frederick Fox: US Navy Pilot
Captain Robert Salas: US Air Force, SAC Launch Controller
Prof. Robert Jacobs: US Air Force
Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy
James Kopf: US Navy Crypto Communications
Witness Testimony
Overview
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell: May 1998
Monsignor Corrado Balducci: September 2000
Radar and Pilot Cases
Introduction
FAA Division Chief John Callahan
Sgt. Chuck Sorrells: US Air Force (ret.)
Mr. Michael W. Smith: US Air Force
Commander Graham Bethune: US Navy (ret.)
Mr. Enrique Kolbeck: Senior Air Traffic Controller,
Dr. Richard Haines
Mr. Franklin Carter: US Navy
Neil Daniels: Airline Pilot
Sgt. Robert Blazina (ret.)
Lieutenant Frederick Marshall Fox: US Navy (ret.)
Captain Massimo Poggi
Lt. Bob Walker: US Army
Mr. Don Bockelman: US Army
SAC/Nuke
Introduction
Captain Robert Salas
Professor Robert Jacobs: Lt. US Air Force
Lt. Colonel Dwynne Arneson: US Air Force (ret.)
Colonel Ross Dedrickson: US Air Force/AEC (ret.)
Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy
Mr. James Kopf: US Navy/ National Security Agency
Lieutenant Colonel Joe Wojtecki, US Air Force
Staff Sergeant Stoney Campbell: US Air Force
Government Insiders/ NASA/ Deep Insiders
Astronaut Gordon Cooper
Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command
Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown: US Air Force (ret.), October
Dr. Carol Rosin
“Dr. B.”
Lance Corporal John Weygandt: U.S. Marine Corps,
Major A. Filer III: U.S. Air Force
Mr. Nick Pope: British Ministry Of Defense
Admiral Lord Hill-Norton: Five-Star Admiral, Former Head of the British Ministry of Defense
Security Officer Larry Warren: United States Air Force,
Captain Lori Rehfeldt
Sergeant Clifford Stone: United States Army
Major-General Vasily Alexeyev: Russian Air Force,
Master Sergeant Dan Morris: US Air Force/NRO Operative (ret.)
Mr. Don Phillips: Lockheed Skunkworks, USAF, and CIA Contractor
Captain Bill Uhouse: US Marine Corps (ret.)
Lieutenant Colonel John Williams: US Air Force (ret.)
Mr. Don Johnson
A.H.: Boeing Aerospace, December 2000
British Police Officer Alan Godfrey
Mr. Gordon Creighton: Former British Foreign Service Official
Sergeant Karl Wolfe: US Air Force
Donna Hare: Former NASA Employee
Mr. John Maynard: Defense Intelligence Agency (ret.)
Mr. Harland Bentley: US Army
Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer,
Dr. Alfred Webre: Senior Policy Analyst Stanford Research Institute
Denise McKenzie: Former SAIC employee
Mr. Paul H. Utz
Colonel Phillip J. Corso, Sr.: US Army (ret.)
Mr. Glen Dennis
Lieutenant Walter Haut: US Navy
Buck Sergeant Leonard Pretko: US Air Force
Mr. Dan Willis: US Navy
Dr. Roberto Pinotti
Technology/Science
Introduction
Mr. Mark McCandlish: US Air Force
Professor Paul Czysz
Dr. Hal Puthoff
David Hamilton: Department of Energy
Lieutenant Colonel Thomas E. Bearden: US Army (ret)
Dr. Eugene Mallove
Dr. Paul La Violette
Mr. Fred Threlfall: Royal Canadian Air Force
Dr. Ted Loder
All the above insiders have spoken out about what they saw and what they know about what our government is hiding
I ask you again do you support our military? Do you think these people would lie?
Do you want our taxes spent on secret black-op programs that we never get told about?
Its Time To Open the Books
But Lance you don’t have credibility to sound convincing at all
We dont need to know anything
we can be complete idiots
I am so is Lance but we know more than UFO researchers
there is no evidence BUT I DONT PAY ATTENTION
I spent 15 minutes in my whole life looking into UFO evidence
and I have determined they dont exsisit
many skeptics have spent less time than 15 mintues
Do you believe that extraterrestrial life has visited Earth?
Yes 62% 24474
No 38% 14765
It looks like people who are skeptics are losing the critical thinking category.
I agree I am skeptic but I also am not very smart
Yes, and most folks don’t believe in evolution either.
Fortunately, science is not done by polls.
I know the stories of some of the folks in the above list (I note that many names are repeated).
Walter Haut–a Roswell witness, initially had not seen anything but as the years went on, his story got BETTER and BETTER and by the time he was on his deathbed, he had seen the bodies, the craft, everything. If he had lived a bit longer he might have repaired the craft and flown away in it.
Glen Dennis is considered a liar by ALL of the major Roswell researchers. Again his story changed and got better over the years. In every point that he claimed that could be checked into, he was found to be a liar.
Phillip Corso’s story Day After Roswell contains known falsehoods, even admitted by his co-author.
The list above uses the classic UFO religion tactic of Quantity over Quality. Many of the names above are people who witnessed nothing . Others are just UFO buffs. None provide a convincing piece of evidence.
At yesterday’s conference Bassett announced a “breakthrough” in the silly alien implant removal story. His witness just presented the same sad “evidence” and the press (if any were in the room) just yawned.
It would be funny if Bassett wasn’t such a sad, sometimes deranged and pathetic man.
Lance you have the wrong opinion
but you have the right to one even though yours is flawed
Lance
keeping trying to make a point!!!!
You really help the UFO Field look Good!!!!!
keep trying
NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell
EDUCATION: Bachelor of Science degree in Industrial Management from Carnegie Mellon University (1952); Bachelor of Science degree in Aeronautics from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School (1961); Doctorate of Science degree in Aeronautics and Astronautics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1964; Honorary Doctorates from New Mexico State University (1971), Carnegie-Mellon University (1971), University of Akron (1979) and Embry-Riddle University (1996).
HONORS AND AWARDS: Presidential Medal of Freedom. USN Distinguished Service Medal. NASA Distinguished Service Medal. NASA Distinguished Service Award. Three NASA Group Achievement Awards. USAF Aerospace Research Pilot School, First in Class Award. Medal of the City of New York. American Astronautical Society, Flight Achievement Award. Arnold Air Society, John F. Kennedy Award for Space Exploration. Carnegie Mellon University Alumni, Outstanding Man of the Year (1972). Kappa Sigma, Man of the Year Award (1972). Adventurers Club, Gold Medal Award for Exploration. Explorers Club, Lowell Thomas Award for Explorations in Human Consciousness (1980). Drexel University, Engineering and Science Award for Explorations in Consciousness (1974). Space Hall of Fame (inducted 1979). Astronaut Hall of Fame (inducted 1995). Nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize (2005).
EXPERIENCE: Mitchell’s experience includes Navy operational flight, test flight, engineering, engineering management, and experience as a college instructor. Mitchell came to the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston after graduating first in his class from the Air Force Aerospace Research Pilot School where he was both student and instructor.
_____>>>>Typical Skeptics Resume>>>>>>Lance——–>>>owned a computer, posted lies, and blogged
I need to note here that the believers, in a sprit of fairness and openness so common among UFO nuts, are posting using my name. Hopefully, the barely comprehensible thoughts of the impostors separate them from my own ravings?
The ever-loving lunacy of the mouth-breathing morons I share the planet with never ceases to amaze me. I know most of the people like to hold on to their delusions of “my life is meaningful with Jeebus” and “I’m important in the universe because of Odin”, but when it comes down to it they’ll take the first bus out of Moronville if it can save
Leave it to these people to screw up my faith in humanity again.
Most people are going to believe the easiest exlplanation, unless another explanation benefits them. That’s why anecdotes of “there is no evidence” are so powerful – especially coming from someone who has done little research. It may be easier for some people to think that ufos dont exsisit creating all life at once and they are comfortable thinking that way. Trying to make them question their views when your so uninformed makes you dumb. UFOs and aliens have been known by the government for years
those wacky skeptics are once again trying to bible thumb their way out of being wrong again and again, the evidence supports the UFO field.
Malmstrom AFB, Montana (1966-67):
1st Lt. Robert C. Jamison–Former USAF Minuteman ICBM targeting officer (Combat Targeting Team Commander), 341st Missile Maintenance Squadron, Malmstrom AFB, Montana:
Jamison states that he assisted in the re-start of an entire “flight” of ten Minuteman ICBMs which had simultaneously and inexplicably shut down immediately after a UFO was sighted in their vicinity by Air Force Security Police. Jamison is certain that the incident occurred at one of the missile flights located near Lewistown, Montana, perhaps Oscar Flight. This event probably occurred on the night of March 24/25, 1967, based on Jamison’s portrayal of related events.
Jamison said that while his and other teams were preparing to respond to the stricken flight, they were ordered–as a precaution–to remain at Malmstrom until all UFO reports from the field had ceased. He further states that his team received a special briefing prior to being dispatched, during which it was directed to immediately report any UFO sighted while traveling to or from the missile field. In the event that a UFO appeared at one of the missile silos during the re-start procedure, the team was directed to enter the silo’s personnel hatch, and remain underground until the UFO had left the vicinity. According to Jamison, the Air Police guard accompanying the team was to remain outside and relay information about the UFO to the base Command Post. Jamison’s own team re-started three or four missiles but did not observe any unusual aerial activity.
Jamison said that while he was at the missile maintenance hangar, waiting to be dispatched to the field, he overheard two-way radio communications at the temporary Command Post, relating to another UFO having been sighted on the ground in a canyon near the town of Belt. He states he recalls hearing that a top commander–either Malmstrom’s base commander, or the 341st Strategic Missile Wing commander–was on-site with other personnel. Based on these recollections, it appears that Jamison is describing the well-documented Belt, Montana UFO sighting of March 24/25, 1967.
Jamison said that immediately after the missile shutdown incident, for a period of approximately two weeks, his team received a special UFO briefing, identical to the one described above, before being dispatched to the field.
Jamison said that approximately two weeks after the full-flight missile shutdown, his team responded to another, partial shutdown–involving four or five ICBMs. Prior to being dispatched, Jamison’s team received a report that the missile failures had occurred immediately after a UFO was sighted over the flight’s Launch Control Facility. Jamison recalls that this incident took place at a flight located south or southwest of Great Falls, possibly India Flight, and during daylight hours.
Jamison said that he had subsequently spoken with several individuals, mostly missile security guards, who had witnessed various UFO-related incidents. He reports that they were “visibly shaken” by their experiences.
Staff Sgt. Louis D. Kenneweg–Former Minuteman ICBM maintenance clerk, 341st Missile Maintenance Squadron, Malmstrom AFB, Montana:
At the time of the 1967 missile shutdown incidents, Staff Sgt. Louis D. Kenneweg was assigned to the 341st Missile Maintenance Squadron (MIMS) at Malmstrom AFB. His duties at the MIMS hangar included issuing Technical Order kits (T.O.s) to other members of his squadron. As Kenneweg explained, “Each of the repair teams would be required to take T.O.’s in the truck with them. The kit included books or manuals that would contain technical information that the technicians could look up rather than rely on memory. There was also a check list in plastic sleeves, kind of like a pre-flight checklist for a pilot, that they would use before removing the warhead from the missile. Of course there was an awful lot of supervision when that occurred.”
Although the date is uncertain, one night, around 11:45 P.M. Kenneweg was driving to work when he noticed something unusual in the sky. “As I traveled down one of the roads parallel to the flightline,” he said, “I saw something that I first thought was a private plane’s lights, blinking. As I watched it get closer, I realized that it wasn’t blinking at all, but zig-zagging. First here, then there, traveling too fast for a plane. Then looming over the flightline. I got up late, and I knew that I had little time, but I stopped anyway. I opened the car door, got out, and focused on the lights. I watched it as long as I could, without being late to work. I remember saying to myself that this pilot was going to be in a lot of trouble, coming across the runway, or at least across the Air Force Base property. I don’t remember it traveling that close to me, but I do remember the image of it disappearing in a low southerly trajectory over the [MIMS] hangar. Of course, it was much farther away than it appeared. At that point, it wasn’t ‘blinking’ anymore but had more of a glow. It appeared as a bright light the size of the moon, on a cloudy night, although I don’t remember it being cloudy.”
Upon arriving at the MIMS hangar, Kenneweg was confronted by a scene of high activity. “As I entered the hangar I noticed that there were numerous trucks being loaded,” he said, “many more than I had ever seen all at the same time.”
Still puzzled about the strange, zig-zagging light, Kenneweg walked toward the Air Police office, where APs were routinely assigned to accompany the maintenance teams into the missile fields, guarding their trucks and the silos once they opened the gates. When he arrived, he noticed an unusual level of activity there as well. Kenneweg asked the Air Police sergeant on duty whether the base had any helicopters up. The sergeant replied that the helicopters didn’t have radar and didn’t fly at night.
Kenneweg continued, “Back at the office, I issued almost all of the [T.O.] kits on the shelf. I remember saying to myself, ‘I’m running out of kits, this is a busy night.’ Now, I didn’t check the sign-out sheet to see how many kits had been checked out before my shift, but while I was on duty, I did recall that they were almost all checked out. As I count them off in my head today, and try to see them on the shelf, we had a wall with 3 shelves that would hold 25 or so.”
Clearly, a lot of missiles were either undergoing routine maintenance, and/or had gone off Strategic Alert for another reason, all at the same time.
Malmstrom AFB, Montana (1975):
Staff Sgt. Joseph M. Chassey–Former Minuteman ICBM maintenance technician, 341st Missile Maintenance Squadron, Malmstrom AFB, Montana:
Chassey states that one night in the fall of 1975, he overhead a two-way radio transmission alerting Air Force Security Police about an unknown craft hovering over the base’s Weapons Storage Area.
Chassey said that the incident was widely discussed at the missile mechanical shop the following day. He later heard additional details about it from a friend, who was a helicopter re-fueler.
Apparently, two base helicopters had been scrambled to chase the intruder, which rapidly flew toward Belt, Montana, some ten miles distant. As the pursuing choppers neared the town, the unidentified craft quickly doubled-back to Malmstrom–leaving them far behind–and again hovered over the WSA for a short period of time before finally departing.
Chassey states that the object was described as an extremely bright light and was assumed to have been a bona fide UFO because of its superior capabilities. He emphasized, “It flat outran the helicopters. We heard that it zipped out to Belt and back to the base in no time.”
Chassey, who separated from the Air Force at the end of October, 1975, believes that the incident occurred shortly before he left Malmstrom.
Comment: USAF documents from October 1975, declassified via the Freedom of Information Act, confirm other UFO sightings at the Weapons Storage Areas at Wurtsmith AFB, Michigan, and Loring AFB, Maine. At the time, each base hosted B-52 nuclear bomber squadrons. At Wurtsmith, initial sighting reports referred to the unidentified craft as a “helicopter”, however, the radar operator aboard a nearby KC-135 aircraft later tracked the craft traveling at approximately 1000 knots, far faster than any known helicopter. At Loring, some reports mentioned an “unidentified helicopter” near the WSA. However, eyewitness accounts from a B-52 ground crew indicated that the “helicopter” was bright orange, football-shaped, and had hovered silently. (For an extended discussion of these cases, consult Lawrence Fawcett and Barry Greenwood’s authoritative book, Clear Intent, later re-named The UFO Cover-Up.)
What in the world is going on here?
To the first poster, Rhesus monkeys are not 3 feet tall, more like 20 inches. Maybe another species of primate, though? I’m not discounting your theory. For all the “believers”, despite all the well-credentialed witnesses, and all the “evidence”, the fact remains there is not one piece of evidence a person can hold in their hand. (except maybe the Starchild skull?). I want to believe. I’m fifty-years-old and have studied this subject all my life. But, I have to face the facts. I believe life does exist elsewhere. I don’t believe they are coming here or there is some kind of mass cover-up.
Hi, Dennis!
What “in the world” indeed!
It appears to be a lively dispute, at various levels of rhetorical and intellectual competence, of the possibility that we have been visited by aliens in spacecraft.
If they did it to confuse the Russians
is that why they covered the whole darn thing up still to this day?
not 1 insider, whistleblower has ever, ever disclosed the “monkey theory”
hundreds have disclosed the “ET theory”
show me 1 piece of evidence to prove your monkey theory?
Hi Malcolm,
Dispute indeed and lots of evidence and testimony of high-level military personell, over 1,000, that back up Dr. Edgar Mitchell’s statements.
Find me 1 government insider who is disclosing that its all untrue.
I am waiting
I would “weigh in” here but there already seems to be about three tons of bullshit already. Don’t know that my processor’s electrons spin rapidly enough.
Reckon it has anything to do with all the unusual weather patterns we’ve been experiencing?
However I would shout out a big, “We’ve got a winner!” with More Liberal Lies.
Lights in the Sky donot disable multiple ICBMs with Nuclear Warheads, you dummy, I can’t believe that is your argument.
What a silly comment about Malstrom
that it was just lights in the sky
lol you really need to write better ones.
JK you would have to think long enough to be able to participate, since you have a tough time understanding reality very well.
Regardless of the truth of this matter: when government employees “disclose” that there has been no cover-up, as many have done, they are then simply dismissed, in keeping with standard conspiracy-theory practice, as being part of the cover-up.
There is no evidence for ETs
I have never bothered looking for it
I have never bothered to care about UFOs
but I know they are not here
I know they are not here
but I don’t know if they are
its all true , what Edgar Mitchell says is all true, he is a very smart scholar.
if you people spend a little time and effort, watching youtube movies, reading very well done books, and doing some homework you will realize that its all true
Uhm, “Truth?Seeker?”
Re-read the statement. Am I making a judgement either pro or con as to whether or not UFOs exist? All I have expostulated on is the weight of the posted excrement.
If I happen perchance to look up into the moonlit sky, happen to see something flying about carrying a mag-light but cannot identitfy what is carry said mag-light – I have by definition – seen a UFO.
On the other hand if, say it’s a full moon, and I can make out that someone (or some extraterrestrial) has ducttaped said mag-light onto a crow’s back, then I have identified said flying object and by definition it is no longer “unidentified.”
How tall are you “TruthSeeker?”
Truth,
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way but after reading your meticulously crafted posts above, your endorsement that someone is “very very smart” might not carry the weight you expect.
But don’t worry, you talk pretty one day!
Lance and JK this is not church and you have yet to show any proof that Christianity is real. None, zero, nothing, no proof.
Lance nothing you say matters to me so tell your ego to take a break and not worry if what you say offends me. Personally you help prove my argument each time you try to rebuttle.
Lance says: Yes, and most folks don’t believe in evolution either.
Fortunately, science is not done by polls.
What about the science of probability?
Seeing as you believe in evolution, from a purely scientific standpoint, BTW I’m no UFO’ologists, I’m an engineer and have an appreciation for numbers, they are pretty unbiased in this debate.
If the chance of there being another life bearing planet were say….extremely extremely small; when you factor in the sample size of the universe, infinitesimally huge, then life must have risen AT LEAST a few other times in the complete cosmos, whether or not in our neck of the universe could certainly be debated, but fans of science would have to agree that if there is even the most remote chance that it could happen (we are the proof of that), then it has happened elsewhere.
Arthur C. Clarke said:
Oh my “Truth? Seeker?”
Copy and paste at will from any of my above comments and then feel free to show me where I have attempted what you, Truth?Seeker? state here. Incidentally, this is copy and paste:
“Lance and JK this is not church and you have yet to show any proof that Christianity is real.”
I do appreciate this little gem though, “JK you would have to think long enough to be able to participate, since you have a tough time understanding reality very well.”
Methinks you’ve been an abductee at some point?
Given that there ought to be civilizations that would be billions of years ahead of us in terms of the evolution of intelligent life, and with technology that would be literally almost beyond imagination, and that there are billions of potential planets on which they could live, the fact that we don’t see them nor have they made any contact argues for their non-existence. The Earth has the most intelligent beings in the universe.
If we were really being visited by space aliens, what are the chances that they’d only ever land (or crash) in wealthy countries with the governmental resources to cover it up? Wouldn’t they be just as likely to wind up in some third-world country whose military would never have the wherewithal to orchestrate such a massive deception?
Hi W,
I am amazed that people still get this issue mixed up.
I do think the evidence that life could exist elsewhere in the universe is compelling. So I am a believer on that issue.
That they came to Earth and have been flitting about in the sky for 60 years is another matter entirely. As an engineer, surely you see the difference?
Lance
Besides, space aliens are racists! Believing in them makes you one too! I trust that’s the end of the argument.
Hi Dennis,
I’m not about to argue with you on any forum. (I’ve seen what happens.) However your sentence:
“The Earth has the most intelligent beings in the universe.”
I think that the opposite can be (at the same time) true too. Perhaps we can get the Maverick Philosopher over here to weigh in?
Hmmmm….we have problems with believing in life outside our own little corner of the universe that by the way is a rock orbiting a star like a billion other rocks the same distance from their stars in this galaxy alone…which is one of billions of other galaxies…but 90% of the planet believes in an all knowing, all seeing, omnipresent, omnipotent, benevolent god who watches our every move…and if we even think dark things will condemn us to eternal flame and damnation??? hmmmmm….as a thinking inquiring being…I’ll take the life outside our planet…not sure about the intelligent part…but then again we were about as smart as your average house cat 10 million years ago…so who knows what the next 10 million will bring.
Hi Lance,
Yes I certainly see the difference!!
I see a few other thoughts since my post that make a lot of sense too, why if aliens were going to land would they have the propensity to only land / crash where there exists the ability to cover the event up, rather lucky if that is the case. My argurment is just that while I have never had any encounters of the third kind, the possibility that life has risen in the universe beyone our ability to authenticate it is a mute point.
I read a newscientist article a while ago that said if the conditions for life are right on Earth, why would it not have risen more then once, in forms different then what we are accoustomed to. It went on to say, and I paraphrase, that we could look in more remote places on earth for such instances, one of which being the upper stratosphere.
I also since that read that there was an experiment perfromed in Antartica I believe, with a balloon put into LEO by some Indian scientists, on return the scientists conducting the experiment found 3 new species of bacteria that are not found on the earth and are highly resistent to UV radiation…kind of what the previous article I mentioned was looking for.
Here is a link: http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/Mar16_2009.htm
If these completely different forms of life can exist so close to home, I find it very
compelling to think that there are perhaps many more forms of life in our universe then we are privy to knowing about.
My 2 cents!
And I thought the controversy stirred up here would be about illegal immigration. Go figure.
– M
Dennis,
It is racist to say that all space aliens are racist. And the only person here who says that they are racist is you. You racist.
We need to be wise at this stage and we need to ask our government to invetigate those allegations. How about we ask Obama for a reform to disclose everything about ufo. This should be the starting point. Too many claims in the world. Are they all wrong?
W (and others): This is why I think the CNN headline “Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe” was problematic. It mixes two very different questions: (1) Is there other (intelligent) life in the universe vs. (2) have extraterrestrials visted Earth? The sheer size of the universe, combined with the example of Earth that life can arise somewhere, suggests that the answer to #1 is probably yes. Despite what this particular former astronaut has to say, I think that on balance the answer to #2 is probably no.
It’s racist to call all space aliens racist! Some are, some aren’t. You — and you know who you are — should check your facts first! Only those unevolved space aliens from the planet Quantgenecon are racist, and a simple genetic test establishes who they are.
Jeffery Hodges
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I think it’s pretty evident that all the posters above who have crawled out of the woodwork are, in fact, extraterrestrials.
And they are led by Dr. Doom.
I sure am glad the opthamologist dilated my eyes at noon-thirty.
And, that I took typing in High School.
Thank you Mrs. DeShazo.
Prof. Hodges, your comment is plainly racist, as you well know. I request that you desist from all further comments until you have been enlightened as to just how vile and offensive your benighted views are.
Dear Deogolwulf:
Racist, I? Impossible. I have just learned that the “unevolved space aliens from the planet Quantgenecon” do not exist. How can I be racist toward those inferior aliens since they do not exist? You are punishing a putative thought crime, you facist! Just like those fascists the inferior Quantgeneconians would do if they existed! Perhaps you are a putative Quantgeneconian!
Best Regards,
Jeffery Hodges
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I shall have no more dealings with you, Hodges, with your twisting words and your abhorrent views about non-existent aliens, who should gain our sympathy not provoke our hatred.