Worlds In Collision

Here’s the late Chris Kyle being interviewed by one Belinda Luscombe, an editor at Time.

The gulf between them is obvious. It seems to me that to her he is almost incomprehensible, as if he belonged to some alien species. (Which probably isn’t very far from the truth: I expect that Mr. Kyle had very little in common with the males that Ms. Luscombe encounters in her usual orbit. If what marks off different species is the unlikeliness of their breeding together, then the assessment seems about right.)

Most alien of all to Ms. Luscombe, I suspect, was Mr. Kyle’s willingness to to say: “these are my people, and those are our enemies” — and that he would actually go so far as to kill his enemies to protect his own people. It is discrimination in its purest form.

George Orwell said that “people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” Chris Kyle was such a man. No matter how Belinda Luscombe might feel about such things, and about such men, he would have died to protect her.

14 Comments

  1. Bill says

    Flyover state males without a conscience are allowed to express their primate rage, induced in them by things like immigration, but only as trained dogs of the wealthy and powerful, and only in a perverse way. It reminds me a bit of the Tolkien myth of the origin of the Orcs: Elves who had been tortured by the dark forces and then enslaved to harness their rage.

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 4:33 am | Permalink
  2. I should like to know how Mr. Kyle was keeping me safe in bed by shooting some clowns in Iraq who would not have been stirred up without the buffoonery of an unnecessary invasion?

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 7:51 am | Permalink
  3. Clowns? Would not have been stirred up? Buffoonery? Unnecessary invasion?

    Straw-men much?

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 11:42 am | Permalink
  4. Malcolm says

    It reminds me a bit of the Tolkien myth of the origin of the Orcs: Elves who had been tortured by the dark forces and then enslaved to harness their rage.

    As for the rest of us, we’re reminded that the Tolkien bestiary also included trolls.

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 12:22 pm | Permalink
  5. Malcolm says

    Joseph, if your point is to question the wisdom of our actions in Iraq, and in particular our absurdly prolonged attempt at nation-building there, I think we might find several points of agreement. But Chris Kyle did not, of course, choose the mission.

    But perhaps I misunderstand you. Are you disagreeing instead with George Orwell’s aphorism? My only point was that Mr. Kyle was a man of the sort Orwell described.

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 12:30 pm | Permalink
  6. True enough, Kyle did not choose it. Still, he was used in what was an arguably unconstitutional operation.

    Do you wish to apologize to those who said “I vas just following orders?”

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Permalink
  7. There is some question as to whether Orwell said it.

    http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/07/rough-men/

    Ultimately, if you count on others to do your violence, maybe they will someday do it to you.

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Permalink
  8. Malcolm says

    Do you wish to apologize to those who said “I vas just following orders?”

    Do I wish to apologize to the Nazis? No.

    Ultimately, if you count on others to do your violence, maybe they will someday do it to you.

    Agreed. Hence the Second Amendment.

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 5:03 pm | Permalink
  9. Of course you don’t want to apologize. In that case we have to make sure when we invade, it is truly necessary. Nice we killed Saddam, but if we believe in collective guilt, we owe the Iraqi people(s) an apology. I give myself a pass. I thought all the justifications were crapola and always opposed the adventure.

    “Agreed. Hence the Second Amendment.”

    A fan of the second myself. I hope it is of service against a huge military establishment that decides duty to the government comes before fidelity to the constitution.

    Posted February 4, 2013 at 7:21 pm | Permalink
  10. Thomas777 says

    Flyover state males without a conscience are allowed to express their primate rage, induced in them by things like immigration, but only as trained dogs of the wealthy and powerful, and only in a perverse way.

    What is even more offensive is the Texan, redneck, or flyover country denizen who thinks ”9/11” had anything to do with him and who loudly laments the fact that Jewish oppression of their sectarian enemies leads inevitably to attacks on NYC.

    Nothing was/is stranger than seeing some Bible Belt mouthbreather clamoring for vengeance against Arabs for attacking people who utterly despise him. Stockholm Syndrome writ large.

    They think Barney Frank, Elaine Kagan, Chuck Schumer and the like are ”Americans just like me”, but that some Mujuhadeen who wants Israel to stop massacring his friends and relatives, doesn’t like American troops stomping around Islamic holy sites, and resents the fact that the same troops at some point probably asked his baby sister if she wants to fuck is ”evil”. These clowns won’t even criticize Jews in public yet they find it cathartic to cheer on the killing of Arabs who haven’t done anything to them. They’re even worse than Jews, they’re traitors.

    Posted February 5, 2013 at 12:27 am | Permalink
  11. JK says

    What is even more offensive is the Texan, redneck, or flyover country denizen who thinks ”9/11” had anything to do with him and who loudly laments the fact that Jewish oppression of their sectarian enemies leads inevitably to attacks on NYC.

    I’m from Arkansas Thomas 777 – not so eddycated as a Texan I reckon, so perhaps you might explain in simpler language?

    These clowns won’t even criticize Jews in public…

    While I might not use the term criticize exactly, you might ask One-Eye or even TheBigHenry ’bout that.

    They’re even worse than Jews, they’re traitors.

    Should you Thomas 777 ever find yourself at Lat: 36.37 Lon: -92.47 – would you please stand on the grass and shout that as loud as you can?

    Posted February 5, 2013 at 4:45 am | Permalink
  12. Thanks, JK.

    Posted February 5, 2013 at 11:50 am | Permalink
  13. Thomas 777 left the following cryptic remark:

    “What is even more offensive is the Texan, redneck, or flyover country denizen who . . . loudly laments the fact that Jewish oppression of their sectarian enemies leads inevitably to attacks on NYC.”

    This seems at odds with your other remarks about “mouthbreathers” in flyover country.

    Take a deep breath, Mr. 777, and try again. I’m sure you’ll then be capable of controlling your sentence and clarifying your point.

    Jeffery Hodges

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    Posted February 5, 2013 at 5:59 pm | Permalink
  14. Malcolm says

    Jeffery, as the old saying goes, “the caravan passes”…

    Posted February 5, 2013 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

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