The political situation is like nothing I have ever seen in my longish lifetime; as I wrote a little while ago, we are no longer a single community disagreeing about the difficulties of the world we share, but rather two bitterly antagonistic camps inhabiting utterly different realities of belief and perception, with nothing objective in common save the physical reality of a geographical land-mass. What is even more dispiriting is that the cleavage plane between these two realities cuts right through friendships and families — including my own. It is simply baffling to me that anyone could look at what the Democrats have become, let alone the candidates they have put forward for the Presidency and Vice-Presidency, and seek to hand them the levers of power; but at home in Brooklyn and Cape Cod, and in the musical community I have spent my adult life living and working amongst, that sentiment is not only predominant, but is promoted with fiery and bellicose malevolence. It’s just a thing I have to live with, but doing so is neither easy nor pleasant. I console myself with the hope that the hydra-headed monster will be set back, next Tuesday, for another two years at least, and maybe even four: the woeful deficiencies of the Biden/Harris ticket, the balefully destructive folly of their platform, and the fantastic outpourings of enthusiasm and optimism that Mr. Trump creates everywhere he goes, stand in glaring contrast to what the pollsters tell us. I think we will win.
If we don’t win, though, here’s something to keep in mind: the American Remnant has a natural advantage over the Left, one that will help us endure as we become the Resistance.
What is that advantage? It is that, in sharp contrast to the Bioleninist coalition of the Left, the American community that brought Trump to power, and that will persist even in defeat, is remarkably monolithic. It has deep roots in not only American, but Western, cultural, religious, and philosophical traditions — traditions, such as the intrinsic worth of the individual, the paramount importance of liberty and property, and the belief that there are natural rights that flow from Man’s creation in the image of God, that are shared, with very little disagreement, by everyone who is about to vote for Trump in the coming election. The basis of the Left’s coalition, on the other hand, is little more than a tallying-up, or adoption by proxy, of grievances — sullen resentments that arise from one’s membership in this or that victim-group. To see life only through this lens is to externalize the most important aspects of one’s existence — while the essential precept of the Red philosophy is, by focusing on liberty and “negative” rights, to internalize the essential ingredients of happiness. For Donald Trump’s cheerful legions of supporters, what matters most in life is not the action of external forces, or what the government can do for you (including by hampering others!), but rather what one can build for oneself, by the virtuous action of industry, provision for the future, and moral self-restraint. Because of this deep commonality and relative lack of faction, the Red nation will be able to form, in opposition, a compact and durable unity.
The zero-sum political philosophy of the Blue coalition, in combination with its being a stitched-together assortment of jealous interest groups, means that as soon as the enemy — us! — is defeated, the ideology of grievance has nowhere to turn but inward. As I have noted since at least 2014, grievance is fractal: once you get in the habit of it, it can operate at every scale. As soon as there is no longer a Trump to rail against, the Left’s myriad factions will simply begin bickering among themselves. They will hardly sheath their knives before they draw them again — this time against each other.
As I said above, I do not expect us to lose this election! I think the enthusiastic multitudes we have seen everywhere in America these past few weeks will carry the day. But even if we do, we should not lose heart. Yes, we should expect Blue to consolidate its power as swiftly and ruthlessly as it can, but even in defeat we will enjoy a solidarity that will make our bondage less oppressive. Meanwhile, the fissile nature of the victorious coalition should make cohesion impossible, and present a variety of exploitable weaknesses.
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This past year has already seen examples of the left eating their own. The question is, if the blue loses, is how will the situation be changed, peacefully or with revolution? The left will do everything it can to make peaceful change impossible, or any change for that matter. In which case, I don’t expect the conservative side to “go gently into that dark night.” They will “Rage, rage at the dying of the light.” And unlike the left, they will have the means by which to do it.
“make our bondage less oppressive.”
Oh, why thank you. A less oppressive bondage, disregarding they are genocidal psychopaths.
“hardly sheath their knives before turning them on each other.”
That comes after we’re dead or a shattered remnant, Citizen.
vxxc,
I think you have rather missed my point. Let me try to make it clearer for you.
If things should take a turn for the worse after this election, we will have, on the one hand, a naturally cohesive community of stubborn, physically capable, well-armed, and like-minded patriots — and on the other, a factious, disordered, and comparatively incompetent ruling coalition, lacking any higher principle of God or country to bind them together.
The point of this post was simply to make this comparison, and to argue that even in temporary political exile, we will have many natural advantages.
The parallels to 1930’s Spain are becoming more apparent. The election ends nothing. I anticipate a Trump victory to be followed by a Leftist insurrection. The fake polls will be used to support the “Trump stole the election” narrative. The street fighters have been organized and primed. (Ever wonder why Dems have allowed Antifa/BLM thugs to operate freely?) Trump supporters have been vilified, dehumanized, even. We are closer to mass political violence than most will allow themselves to think.
Al, I agree.
I am trying to channel your hopefulness, with imperfect results. I live in a lower middle class neighborhood some distance from the university, and there are Trump signs up and down the street (one notable exception). But I work in the solid Blue milieu that you do, and I am frankly frightened by the fanatics. My Trump-voting neighbors do not have plans for the Blue fanatics, but the Blue fanatics have definite plans for my Trump-voting neighbors.
I think you may underestimate the power of the media to conjure up a Emmanuel Goldstein to solidify the Blues with three minutes’ hates. I don’t know about you, but I have yet to be contacted by the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. No doors have magically opened since I publicly identified as a Right-Winger. Quite the opposite. This may of course be because the Conspiracy has no use for a clown like me, but I think it more likely that it is because there is no Conspiracy. The monolithic solidity you describe is (to use Durkheim’s terms) mechanical rather than organic.
Mechanical solidarity is the single-hearted concord that you describe, but organic solidarity is the organization of a conspiracy. Like the crew of a pirate ship, the Blue fanatics of this conspiracy are ruthless cut-throats, but they will not start cutting each others throats until they have finished cutting ours. And, even then, they can hold things together by raising the ghost of Emanuel Goldstein.
JMSmith,
It’s interesting: whenever I write anything that isn’t relentlessly and abjectly black-pilled, I attract criticism for being a Pollyanna (see vxxc, above).
I don’t deny that a grim struggle is ahead if we lose power next week, or even if we don’t. The American polity is irreparably broken, and the foreseeable future, no matter what shape it takes, will be a constant battle for power, until we find some way to disaggregate.
The Red polity isn’t broken at all, however, while the Blue coalition, by its very nature, is deeply, and almost fractally, fissile. That’s an important asset, even if things go very badly wrong, which I don’t deny they very well might.
Besides having a natural basis for cohesion, the Red resistance is made up of what the blogger Z-Man calls “Dirt People” (in contrast to the “Cloud People” who run the media, academia, etc., and who are the upper half of the dumbbell-shaped coalition that seeks to put its boot on our necks). Unlike Cloud People, who live in a world of abstracta conducive to the confection of possible Utopias, but who otherwise have few practical competencies, the Dirt People that make up the Red bloc are generally the ones who build and maintain physical infrastructure, grow and transport food, provide security, and maintain order. In overwhelming majority they own guns, and know how to use them. They are far more religious than Dirt People, and they maintain the traditional values that have sustained the United States since its inception, and that provided the foundation upon which it built itself into the world’s preeminent power. Importantly, all of this provides a transcendent basis for loyalty — to the Creator, country, and one another — that is wholly lacking in a Godless congeries of resentful, self-seeking identity-groups whose only commonality seems to be a hatred of the traditional American nation, and of its white, European, Christian founding stock.
I’m also not inclined to agree that “they will not start cutting each others throats until they have finished cutting ours”. Once they have subdued us politically they will, yes, begin moving to implement their dark vision of America — but at the same time, having acquired power, they will at once begin squabbling over it, and that internal struggle will soon come to the fore, fracturing their coalition along its natural fault-lines even as ours is looking for, and almost certainly finding, ways to join one another in resistance.
So yes, these are parlous times, and clouds of war are gathering. But we have many strengths that the other side lacks, and there is no reason to despair.
Despair not. Trump will win, bigly. Every single predictor is in his favor except fake polls and the covert influence program we call “the media.” Maintaining executive power is critical and we will have it. Chin up through what comes next. Michael Anton spells it out well, if you haven’t read his warnings. The Right is right and the Left is wrong. See you on the other side.
Once again, Al, I agree. I think we’re going to win this election. We must be prepared, though, for the losing side’s spasm of fury when that happens.
Two intrinsic weaknesses of this American “Right”:
1. Protestantism’s tendency to split.
2. Christianity’s concept of sin.
The former is obvious. The latter needs a word or two. Sin can be individual or corporate. Groups can sin. That sin can be inherited. That sin can be felt individually. That sin can be used to guilt-trip the individual Christian into supporting left-wing causes.
Jeffery Hodges
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1st time reader. This is excellent writing.
Yes the Left is decidedly the Hair on Fire party. By contrast, Red America is less feminine, more self-confident. Should win the long-term civilizational struggle.
Btw my favorite album on your list is Garland Jeffrey’s “Guts for Love”.
Malcom,
Thank you for your gracious response.
I react perhaps strongly to any thought of giving in, and perhaps give into my Irishness.
[Irish American].
Having said that I must now point out that what you label our virtues and their vices is in truth reversed in the practical world.
The difference is organization. They have it however flawed, we have none. They exist, we do not. Not in reality, not as a group.
Or groups. The Left EXISTS, the Right does NOT EXIST. This is the difference between an easily scattered [or never gathered] mob and an army however so flawed.
“naturally cohesive community of stubborn, physically capable, well-armed, and like-minded patriots — and on the other, a factious, disordered, and comparatively incompetent ruling coalition, lacking any…”
My Dear Sir: they may be factious and disorderly in certain ways but that’s only because they have order and so factions in the first place. We have none.
We have offline, in meatspace NOTHING.
They only appear incompetent because they have corporeal form, we have none. Just fantasies that we can come together…because we are ‘like minded’.
As if likes mean anything.
A constant quarrel of mine over years, including Z blog.
“naturally cohesive community of stubborn, physically capable, well-armed, and like-minded patriots” – who are utterly and completely atomized, and convinced Feds are waiting for them in ambush should they try to organize a bake sale.
We have nothing to cohere, and cohesion does not happen naturally. Bar talk cohesion, not real world cohesion.
It is entirely possible to organize legally, quietly and above all harmlessly, bring no weapons and no propaganda. but no…that’s ‘Fed posting”.
Many a wit will be posted by Feds from Trees, cursing his folly. A loose tongue and no means to back it up.
A well ordered militia meant *organized and trained together* the right to bear arms being a logistical matter, and an afterthought. The Founders knew it took decades of work to prepare an army, their own army being prepared by none other than Pitt, and their own legislatures for the French and Indian War.
The most actual likely use of all our many arms if it happened today would be as supply and resupply depots for the enemy. We are in the relationship of the Union depots raided by Jackson and Mosby, or any number of armies whose weapons were captured and used by their braver foes. It’s actually easier, we have no organization at all to resist. Nor is it likely we will, no organization will come from the Right.
If any resistance to the Left happens at all it will be because they went to far, and existing organizations turned against the Left. This is unlikely but possible.
The Right Sir actually reminds me of the Egyptians and Palestinians going into the 1948 War – all talk, all rabble. The Israelis being an actually cohesive mass that had organized all their lives won.
You’re all in for a terrible shock, I’ve seen and done enough war to know. Most who talk now if they even show will never show their faces twice in war.
Having said that in the end I think we win on numbers and on vast land mass, but with vastly greater suffering and cost than if the most rudimentary and entirely benign, legal relationships had been made.
My objection being those who preach victory but allow no preparation to be made, because of their own personal interests [Z comes to mind]. A false sense of confidence exists that will be followed by rout, if there’s any pushback at all.
You may this veteran assure you forget about forging bonds of blood in war if you’re afraid to organize a bake sale.
Shorter Version:
Numbers don’t count.
Fighters count, fighters who win are organized and trained.
If it happened today, we are at best the Arabs of 1948 and the Left the Israelis.
Indeed we are the Palestinians – a rabble.
In 1948 the odds on the battlefield were equal in numbers and equipment, and the Israelis were better trained and organized.
vxxc: I think Spain is a better example. The lead up to the Spanish Civil war featured several similarities to our current situation. The Left was divided into several factions and the left-most faction was determined to initiate an armed revolutionary struggle. They progressively ratcheted up the violence while the Right, also divided, sought to achieve their aims politically. After the Left stole the elections and began state-sanctioned murder of their political opponents the Army attempted a coup which was not successful. The Civil War began with the Right deeply divided on key issues but united in hatred of the Left. They fell in behind Franco and the rest is history.
If we follow the Spanish model then what comes next will not be decided by antifa/John Brown Gun Club vs. Patriot militia TICs. The country will bifurcate politically into two factions, each claiming legitimate executive authority. The Right, such as it is, already has a leader, AND he currently has executive authority, which puts us well ahead of the Spanish Nationalists. The Left may openly commit to armed revolutionary struggle, perhaps as soon as next week, and some local, state, and even federal entities could join them.
Maybe cooler heads will prevail, I hope so. Things are apt to be ambiguous for quite a while. If you see different LE and/or USMIL elements shooting at one another you will know that the war has arrived.
I think vxxc has got the better grasp on the reality.
Two salient snippets from this quite brief interview occur at (aboutish) 4:35 but more significantly, for the purposes of vxxc’s, and to a somewhat lesser degree my own, at (aboutish) 7:50.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/my-election-predictions.php
My “personal situation” being relatively sheltered compared to the rest of the country – I’m in the Ozarks and as Big Media is fond of saying about the region, Nothing happens down there and even if it did nobody would notice.
vxxc, you are too blackpilled even for me. (And that’s saying something, because I am no optimist when it comes to the near future of the United States.)
Back in 2013 I wrote:
I agree with you that Red America is not currently organized for resistance to tyranny. But an organization of partisans, like any human construction, is only as strong as the material it’s made of. The better-suited to cohesive organization the parts, the more easily assembled they will be — and the individual qualities of the building-blocks themselves determine the strength of the structure they combine to create.
We have been at war for decades now. In that time a very great number of Americans have been trained for war, were sent away to fight a ruthless enemy in difficult and unfamiliar terrain, and have come back home, forever changed by the experience — while cohort after cohort have taken their place. They have come home to live quiet lives, most of them in the heartlands of America so despised by our ruling elites. But they have not forgotten how to fight. They love the traditional American nation they bled for. And if they have to fight to defend it, they will be fighting not for some patch of dust in a God-forsaken rathole halfway around the world, but for their own homes, hearths, and altars, in country that they know like the back of their own hands.
The great mass of the Blue coalition, by contrast, is built mostly of the rags and scraps of the marginalized and discontented, together with a generation of soft-handed youngsters miseducated to despise the tree upon whose upper branches their comfortably feathered nests were built. They have no idea how to endure hardship, or how to suffer, consciously and intentionally, for a cause that transcends their own comfort and safety. (Indeed, having been swaddled all their lives in a downy cocoon of peace and prosperity, they are so unaware of the precariousness of civilization that they have no idea that such comforts can ever face a truly existential threat: that easy times aren’t simply guaranteed in perpetuity by some law of nature.)
Atop this heterogenous assortment of resentful misfits and idealistic ignoramuses perches the clerisy of the Cathedral, as Tocqueville explained:
Such, then, are the utterly different characters of Red and Blue America. Yes, our side has yet to assemble itself into functional cohesion, but do you doubt that it can, or that it will, if the need becomes obvious? I don’t. And can you doubt that in a genuine battle for the heartland of America there would be, as Admiral Yamamoto supposedly said in contemplating an invasion of the US, “a rifle behind every blade of grass?”
Larry Correia wrote, some years ago, a sharp essay about the prospects for civil war in the United States. This passage seems apt:
I’m curious to know what your response to Mr. Correia’s post would be.
Brilliant.
I think the critics are not really addressing the basic point here. Sure, the enemy has all kinds of advantages for now. But if push comes to shove–God forbid–there is a major fundamental difference between the two sides. If we are being truly oppressed and killed or enslaved, as could happen, we still have a deep reason to live and fight and eventually come together. In a truly life/death situation, organization gets started. We can’t really predict. This is not like any other time. Not really.
I take the point to be that real organic commitment and history and commonality will *ultimately* prevail against a coalition of psychopaths and parasites. Or at least that’s not too unlikely! So we shouldn’t despair.
Thanks Malcolm. I’ve also experienced this hellish situation, being “cancelled” by most friends and even family for not being happy about bioleninism. So be it. Let’s get this over with.
Malcolm,
Here is the question: can online and online, bar talk, in spirit only materialize from almost nothing? The almost being the scattered militias, which at most amount to a few thousand, which could optimistically field a few hundred? I answer NO, and further that it won’t even be tried.
In real life people don’t throw themselves away on gestures. Certainly not your average person, which is your average rightie.
This isn’t blackpilling, it’s the ground reality today. No right exists. No counterpart to the Left exists, no counterpart to Antifa, no counterpart to BLM, NOTHING.
Perhaps at your jobs you report to work and there’s no organization or resources that organizations bring, but not my job.
Someone mentioned overseas service.
Hi, how ya doin? Pardon me if I don’t put my DD214 up, but it exists.
You were of course pointing out the raw material exists. Yes, which is why the ensuing unnecessary suffering is so tragic, comical almost. The resources human and material exist- and NONE dare even organize a damn bake sale. VAST resources of material and men. All idle, all atomized.
No Malcolm, no et al, it doesn’t magically happen.
Further sir your analysis of Blue is vastly underestimating their organization, resources, and that the larger part of the state and the elites support them. BLM is an entirely govt backed [the deep state is the actual govt for any security matters] and fully finance and corporate backed entity. ANTIFA is the children and project of the rich. Not just Soros, but Buffet’s son…frankly the list of leftist organizations is several blogs in itself.
You cannot look at Finance, Tech, Media, Law, the Courts, Academia and Blue Govt, the Intelligence agencies, part of the FBI and DOJ, and now apparently a Flag officer following in the military and call them scattered. >the most important part being ORGANIZATION.
All I am saying is form organizations.
No guns, no talk, no flags, no politics at meetings. Since we’re all of common mind, any of the above are disqualifiers. Escort any who cannot abide away, forbid them in direct and emphatic terms. There is no gain and much loss from such people.
Not to mention risk. Frankly the big talkers run, it’s quite true.
I don’t want the guy who hits a paper at 800 yards. I want someone who can drive 50 gallons of gas, food or water 100 miles without trouble. >That’s how to organize.
Can you move water, food, gas over distance to a common point without undue drama?
Can you be disciplined enough to do it without trouble?
Can you treat this like a job?
No talk, just positive and harmless, helpful, legal and discrete achievements.
Not just logistics and aid to our own during disasters but communications is also good for team building. Legal.
Malcolm et al the difference between plan ‘it will just happen’ and the real thing is the difference between playing a video game and coding a video game, or any computer program .
Wanting to drive a car or driving a car is very different from BUILDING a car.
Getting on a plane as a passenger is very different from manufacturing a plane, or flying it. Being an airline passenger is very different from operating the air travel system.
You seem to think this will all be there, that it will materialize from the ambient raw materials. Of course not.
Malcolm I simply ask that you seriously consider whether we need to organize something – i have one word, and had it for some years now: ORGANIZE.
ORGANIZE.
That is all I ask.
[I will rebut the Spanish CW below, that’s too long, indeed this was TL].
TL:DR version: Nothing just happens, it must be organized.
This post didn’t just happen, coders spent thousands of hours and god knows how much money writing the software for me and all of us to post, the electric company provides power, the ISP connectivity. All of which is ORGANIZED.
ORGANIZE.
On the Spanish Civil War: And why that doesn’t apply to us…a refutation
If we define us as not Leftists, that is to say we are the Right…or the common man…
We are not the Nationalists; they had the Army, in particular the Army of Morocco. nor the Republicans; they had decades of Republicanism and political legitimacy, the unions, enough of the police and armed forces, allies abroad, the intellectuals, the International Left, the Basques, much of the peasants.
We are not the Catholics who organized their own feared militias and of course the Church has been organized rather a long time.
We are not the Basques, who were born organized and fighting.
We are not the Anarchists, scatter brained dreamers or not. The Anarchists had a century of organization in Europe and internationally prior to 1936.
Do I need to mention we’re not the Communists nor the Socialists either?
We’re nothing, we do not exist.
We are utterly scattered and isolated individuals heavily armed, highly skilled, in millions of cases experienced and trained for a myriad of enterprises….but I misspeak…
There is no we.
There.Is.No.We.
If there was an us, that would be our tragedy….but there is no us.
Now…prithee..the hour is late but not too late…
ORGANIZE -OR DIE ALONE,
And watch our light go out of the universe, The lights of our people and civilization wink out of existence one at a time..
Because we did not organize to survive.
I think VXXC is too pessimistic in his commentary. There are many ways to fight–doesn’t have to be a shoot out. The right controls a huge amount of productive land and productive build-it-skills. Because they are the dirt people (yet intelligent maintenance men) they can always forget to clean the sand out of the gears. Or forget to work to pay taxes. Or barter their productive effort with others. It’s informal, but it is more emotionally organized than is recognized because there isn’t a billionaire database collecting the association.
Now the above is a bit blackpilled, and I find no edit function. My words stand, the fatal lack of any organization will cost us dearly.
But in truth: I think not all.
No more than it cost the Vendee, the Russian or Chinese peasants all. They too survived.
The most important happening of the 21st century is the vote is beginning to count again. That is why we are here.
Here is who we are now: peasants.
That’s what being utterly without organization gets you, as any union leader could tell you.
However due to oversights we were allowed to keep voting, the actual power was thought to be in hand.
Then the peasants elected a Tribune.
We needed an attack dog, sadly we have a barker not a biter. Sad.
We are however very skilled, very well resourced peasants.
There are a lot of us, over 200 million at least. We have 2 million square miles to maneuver into, this includes the default of running away up to a point.
We have all the skills, we make things, we grow things, we provide the necessities and indeed many of the comforts of life.
We are the transport for said goods, moreover we are entirely all astride their supply lines. A review of 7 pillars of wisdom and the actual strategy of TE Lawrence would be helpful…ahem.
Here is what I think will happen next week:
A lot of drama, then more of the same.
2020 same, but the same.
OR…and it’s quite Boolean…either or…
Or they continue to toss away the Fabian tactics that have bought them such success and the Left overreaches, prompting at last a reaction.
In truth they may be tired and scared as we are…and may give up, let the Constitutional government return.
Much indeed all depends on whether the elites – who are Left as a body in action and interests, sentiments are meaningless…
it depends on the elites. If they overreach and touch at last the wrong group, an organized group, or if they commit such an outrage that an organized group stands up…then, then we have our reaction.
I emphasize again: there is no right to react, the right abstained too long, too well. Now it knows nothing else.
However they might just push an organized body too far, then something is possible.
If not…?
Given time the process could play out peacefully, peacefully defined as 2020.
The Left and the Elites continue to lose legitimacy and support [see the Hispanics] as the Left has two dominant traits – they are corrupt to the marrow, and they are mad.
Not all the corrupt are mad, not all the mad are corrupt.
The most important happening of the 21st century is the vote is beginning to count again, by accident really. It’s the mismanagement of the elites that is causing the vote to be defaulted back onto…it was there before, it is still there…we are defaulting to our last known working configuration.
The most important happening of the 21st century is the vote is beginning to count again. If it is allowed to count the present elites and establishment lose power, can they do so peacefully?
We will see.
If they can’t accept the vote, if they can’t accept the Constitution and are no longer satisfied with slowly smothering it out…if they turn their hands on the wrong group [again, not us..we are peasants, nothing, no group] then if they touch the wrong organization then there is some banner to rally around at last.
What that group could be we can only speculate. They might give the police or the military, or even the intelligence services one outrageous order too far, or order the wrong arrests, they might even be incompetent enough to move on the [useless] weapons.
In the end we’ll probably make it as America…there’s just too much of us all around.
Then again the Russians and the Chinese ‘made it’ after a fashion, didn’t they?
For our situation my dears is that of the peasant, peasants without leaders…just Lords insane and incompetent. An oligarchy is bad enough, a mad oligarchy is worst.
The American peasant will survive, how much suffering he endures…is apparently not up to him.
That’s the whitest pill I can offer, but cheer up, the enemy may well F**k Up.
Cheers.
I’m am planning on Trump maintaining power. If not, all bets are off.
The political bifurcation is thus: Pro-Trump or Anti-Trump. Love him or hate him, what comes next will be governed by that dynamic. That is who WE are (I am, anyway). We have a leader and he is a fighter. We are not alone.
We are organized in many places. Just yesterday Trump supporters in AZ organized a caravan that was 96 miles long with an estimated 17,000 vehicles. Someone made that happen. That’s not nothing.
99% of antifa street fighters are punks who will wilt under fire. More than half are girls, apparently. If things get serious they can be dealt with quickly. The real threat will be anti-Trump LEO/USMIL.
If the Left goes all in, as I expect them to, our focus as non-LEO/USMIL is “neighborhood watch on steroids.” Organizing above that level will be the responsibility of our elected officials and our LEO/USMIL loyalists.
Anyway, that’s how I’m seeing it right now. Could change in a matter of hours.
Stay safe.
Al,
Thank you sir, the caravans give me heart.
“We are organized in many places. Just yesterday Trump supporters in AZ organized a caravan that was 96 miles long with an estimated 17,000 vehicles. Someone made that happen. That’s not nothing.”
No it is something.
I serve the Republic. It still exists, it has the actual legitimacy, further regardless of their faults the legitimate elected government – if not the power – is sitting at their desks.
Truly after seeing Iraq I am fonder than ever than established governments and order over mere theory. Especially the one sworn to…and upon critical examination a Federated Republic of our Constitution is still our best solution.
We will probably have to fight for it to keep it. Indeed we may have to fight to merely survive. That’s the endless story of man, just our turn for a trial.
I’m right about no organization being a critical and very costly mistake.
Lets say: it goes, and we don’t submit.
We don’t submit, and so we fight.
1 year to organize and sort who’s who.
1 year to begin to rebound.
2-3 years hard fighting.
10 years after sorting it out, with some compromises by both sides…that’s after we win.
If they win we live in …well..we know…
I will say nothing good will be gained by submission. The enemy are not the self limiting sort, they’ve never paid the costs of their choices. That’s not the sort to submit to…they don’t limit themselves even in their hatreds.
No submission, if Biden wins and governs Constitutionally then a miracle occurred.
If not..
Did i miss the discussion about opportunistic foreign powers invading Taiwan or Venezuela during our election red/blue squabble? “If they win” who or what structure is La Resistance Rouge going to organize around? esp. in the event of a China (or its proxies) gambit? China wants Joe so they can greenlight their goto plans. We will be up against more than a few soyboy antifa mostly peaceful protestors.
This would tend to indicate a permanent “Red America” organization, permanent rallies, permanent mmBig Trucks.
“Trump Reportedly Planning To Continue Rallies After Election Day.”
https://www.westernjournal.com/report-trump-continue-campaigning-election-keep-supporters-morale
I can agree to most of these black-pill claims. And these are important claims that we all need to think about very seriously. It’s right and important to emphasize all the terrible dangers and problems that we face.
But I still agree with what I take to be the main ideas in Malcolm’s original post.
A big theme in the post, as I understood it anyway, was that the Red team has a few major advantages: (i) deep roots, history and shared values, and (ii) a fundamentally positive, self-affirming ‘internalist’ conception of the good things in human life.
Obviously these advantages aren’t enough on their own to prevent the worst outcome. And we don’t know that they will be enough to facilitate organization, now or later. We don’t know for sure what might be needed, or whether what’s needed will ever happen. Definitely we shouldn’t expect that these advantages *alone* will be enough to magically bring about viable organizations or resources or military victories. But so what? Malcolm wasn’t putting forward any of these other overly optimistic ideas.
The point is that some important Red advantages *exist* and they *matter* whatever the future holds. Normal people who have a real sense of community and take responsibility for themselves have an advantage over a deranged mob united by nothing except resentment and narcissism. Red can survive as a real human community of some kind whereas Blue is a Frankenstein monster stitched together from diseased and deathly elements; it barely stumbles along for now.
Is that not true? Is it not important?
We don’t know what’s going on. We don’t know how any of this insanity will play out. And–of course–the normal people are in very serious danger now, and we are nowhere near where we need to be in order to protect ourselves or even begin setting up the networks and institutions we would need to protect ourselves. For all we know our kids will be slaves or murdered in camps or something. Entirely possible.
All that is true, but one helpful thing we can do for the moment is realize that we aren’t yet dead or defeated. We have *something* very important even if, for now, it’s not much and not enough.
If there is ever going to be organization or anything else that we need to resist and survive and someday restore normal human society, we first need to have *a little* faith that this is possible.
Thank you very much, Jacques. I will respond further in a new post.