As I imagined would happen, the Trump team has apparently realized its error, and has added permanent residents to the list of persons exempted from its temporary entry ban.
Good, I’m glad that’s sorted out. I do wish they hadn’t made this colossal boo-boo in the first place, but at least they’ve put it right.
The Left, of course, is writhing like a snake in a noose, but what else would you expect? They have only two modes of behavior: bullying when they have the advantage, and tantrums when they don’t.
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Malcolm, I’ve been a longtime reader of your blog, and I’m very disappointed at your posts on this issue. What should be clear to anyone with a brain is that neither the law nor the constitution actually matter to the left – what matters is demographic invasion of non-integrating minorities that want bigger government in order to receive more handouts. Our immigration system has been seriously abused and the vast majority of these immigrants are democrat shills. Birthright citizenship is just as fraudulent. Honestly: fuck visa holders, fuck non-integrating immigrants, and fuck all those that whine about it. Hand-wringing over process at this point is beyond ludicrous.
I’m ultimately hoping that Trump strips anti-American shitlibs and pro-Sharia Muslims of actual citizenship and kicks them out of the country.
Actually, I object to the NYT being used as a source. The piece says the White House pulled back but they site another NYT piece and no White House quotes given that I see.
M, I’m sorry you’re disappointed, but this was a clumsy operation, and whether a green-card holder is a Democrat or not is not the point. Obviously our immigration system has been abused, quite deliberately and destructively, but that’s not the point either. I am against birthright citizenship too, but again, that’s still not the point. And just saying “fuck this and fuck that” is not any sort of argument, and it’s not a helpful comment. I understand that you are frustrated and fed up, as we all are, but you should be able to do better than that. At the very least, I will ask you to try when you comment here.
My point was a narrow one: that permanent-resident status means that you are allowed to call the United States your home. If we are going to rail against the arbitrariness of things like the Obama administration’s immigration enforcement, and its winking at “sanctuary cities”, then if we are to be consistent we must also insist that the law and policy of the United States Government means something that people can depend on. A “green card” subjects the holder to obligations and responsibilities to that government, such as registering for the draft. This means in turn that the government has some obligation to those it officially allows to call the United States their home, and it seems to me that denying them re-entry without some sort of charges against them is to renege on that commitment.
If, as Henry has been saying in his comments to my earlier post, they traveled to places that they knew in advance they were not allowed to travel to, that’s another matter. But I’m not aware of that being the case here.
I have just removed a comment that called for the nuclear annihilation of the Middle East, on the grounds that it is an unpleasant place, and home to unpleasant people.
I don’t like filtering comments. I welcome civil discussion of almost any topic, but I am not going to provide a forum here for the (apparently serious) advocacy of atomic genocide.
Here’s something we might try instead: let’s just preserve and defend our own cultures and homelands. We ought to be able to manage that, I think.
Rick,
The statement from DHS is here.
I’ll avoid from using expletives, that’s fine, my apologies. But your point is one that I directly want to address: you write “If we are going to rail against the arbitrariness of things like the Obama administration’s immigration enforcement, and its winking at “sanctuary cities”, then if we are to be consistent we must also insist that the law and policy of the United States Government means something that people can depend on”. It is not the arbitrariness of Obama’s policies that I (and many others) rail against, it’s an understanding that we are in a cold war of globalism versus nationalism being fought every day in this country, and “law”, to the extent it matters anymore, is only being used crudely as a cudgel against one’s opponents. Insisting on a fair and balanced application of the law harkens back to a prior period of American politics and results in a handicapping of the nationalist’s rules when this is a life and death struggle and no such rules should apply. The important thing now is victory.
I might add that, as a thought experiment, George W. Bush’s excesses brought Obama, and Obama’s excesses brought Trump. If Trump doesn’t win here, imagine the kind of liberal that Trump will result in….it will be an Elizabeth Warren type on steroids.
So I suggest you focus on strategies towards victories, instead of existing law…
M, when we move beyond law, we have war. Not “cold” war, but war. Have you ever lived through a war?
War may come, and it may come soon. But it is not something to wish for.
I’ll quote myself, from December of 2015, writing in response to another commenter making essentially the same point that you are now:
What, indeed?
My point, Malcolm, was not that they might have traveled to forbidden places. It was more generally that there happen to be restrictions on where and for how long they are allowed to travel, and that this can not be known without detaining the returnees so that the authorities can question them about the details of their itinerary.
You are “not aware of that being the case here” because they were detained long enough to ask them some questions. How else would anyone be “aware” of anything otherwise?
My point, Henry, is that this is generally not done with green-card holders (I know, because I used to have one.)
I thought it was a mistake to subject them to this as part of this executive order, and without advance notice. Apparently Mr. Trump agrees, and has rescinded that part of the order.
Malcolm, you make a good point, of course, in that whatever is bound to come next is going to be much worse than what came before. I don’t discount that; my point comes from a feeling of alarmed urgency instead of a place of breathless excitement. Because, you see, Middle America has already lost:
George W. Bush lost the popular vote in 2000 by 500,000 votes.
Trump lost the popular vote this year by 3,000,000 votes.
In addition, the greatest share of the Hispanic vote that the Republican party ever won was 44% in 2004 when GWB basically promised them the moon – “compassionate conservativism”, giving out free houses at 0% interest rates, letting in illegals, being from Texas with his brother married to a Hispanic woman, etc.
Trump won by a miracle because Hillary ignored the midwest, thinking she could win on a strictly anti-white male platform (which she did on the popular vote). Democrats will never let their guard down in this manner again.
So, you see, demographics is destiny and the Republic is dead, unless radical – and extremely unpopular – actions are taken by Trump with respect to immigration immediately. Trump is 70 years old and plenty of people want him dead. Pence doesn’t have the brain or heart to do it, he’s an establishment cuck. We are one heartbeat away from a catastrophe from which middle white America will never recover.
The time to act, and act radically, has to be now. There is simply no more time left. It is the battle of the Colline Gate and the Marians (Democrats), allied with the eternal enemy of Rome the Samnites (Muslims), are engaged in a desperate battle with Sulla. I hope you take this into consideration in your analysis that the even application of law and order is really what’s necessary to right this ship.
M,
If not reversal of years of destructive government policies (i.e. working within the confines of the law and the Constitution), then what, exactly, are you proposing? There are limits to what Trump can do on his own, but you can be sure he will explore them. Let’s see how that goes.
I stand by what I said about permanent residents, though, and apparently Trump does too. There’s an art to this, and it is best to avoid civil war.
Once again, Malcolm, I believe we are in violent agreement. I know “this is generally not done with green-card holders”. I was just observing that the people who acted thus in response to Trump’s EO probably interpreted it to mean that what was generally not done before was now ordered to be generally done. I strongly suspected, as did you, that this would quickly be clarified, as it already has been.
Malcolm, with respect to actual policies, in my opinion the key is to drive a dagger into the heart of Democratic institutions (the MSM, universities, and the unelected civil service) and constituencies (unfettered Islamic and hispanic immigration) while bolstering the military. The enacting of the following policies couldn’t be done all at once, there is certainly an art to this, but if anyone can do it I think it’s Trump…I suggest the following:
IMMIGRATION:
Build the wall; institute mandatory employer e-verify under criminal penalty; institute large tax on funds sent by individuals to Latin America (use the funds to pay for the wall); immediate deportation of all criminal aliens; later deportation of all illegal aliens in the U.S for under XX (10?) years; defund sanctuary cities and states (like CA); in addition to defunding, institute specific taxes on cities/states that refuse to obey federal law. Can they criminally prosecute local officials?; end birthright citizenship entirely; pass a bill stripping citizenship for the immediate family of <20 year citizens that commit terrorist acts; ban on all Islamic immigration; institute a drastic decrease in H1B visas; rewrite immigration laws to make illegal entry and visa overstays felonies with mandatory jail times; pass a law prohibiting non emergency health care, college education, welfare to illegals by any entity including state entities; move from family based immigration to merit based immigration with strict caps; legalize people who have been here prior to 2006 with no pathway to citizenship.
EDUCATION
End Federal student aid for all non-STEM and non-trade school institutions; all student loans should be dischargeable in bankruptcy; institute a reoccurring tax on the endowments of large universities; reassess tax exempt status of universities; end disparate impact, eliminate dept of education/housing; protect free speech by making it illegal for colleges which receive federal funding of any sort to have speech restrictions or discrimination based on political viewpoint; cap federal student loans at say 60K per person
MEDIA
Break up the media companies into many smaller organizations – there are too few of them, too few competition, too monopolistic; his applies not just to traditional media but also to Google and Facebook; move the white house briefing room to a larger building and invite a lot of the alt-right media to attend (drown out CNN/ABC) … I think they're doing this one.
"NONPROFITS"
– Imprison George Soros for life
TRADE
– Seems like Trump is doing what he should be doing on trade w/r/t China, NATO, etc.; renegotiate NAFTA by signing separate bilateral deals, undo TPP. sign a trade deal with EU
GOVERNMENT
– Institute a hiring freeze; make it *much* easier to fire federal employees; work to basically dismantle the state department – it's a swarm of rabid left wing animals; CIA needs to be gutted as well; work to drastically cut federal pensions
TAXES
– Not an area I focus on much, open to thoughts…
HEALTHCARE
– Repeal Obamacare, allow insurance companies to compete across state lines, create specific health centers for people without insurance with the use of death panels to strictly control the health care given; drive down the price of pharmaceuticals dramatically; doesn't make sense that these companies can charge high prices domestically and sell them for pennies in third world countries
RIOTERS
– Throw the book at criminal rioters to the maximum extent permitted by law.
HILLARY
– Continue investigation and charge Hillary criminally if enough evidence is found for her obvious pay-to-play Clinton Foundation
M,
Well, there you are: policy prescriptions for legislators and the Executive to adopt, under the powers granted them by the Constitution.
We could quibble about the specifics, but this is very different from war.
And so we agree, at least, on the general principle here: that we should exhaust what can be done within the framework of a civilized and constitutional republic before descending into anarchy, barbarism, and war. (Which is what I’ve said all along.) We should all hope that we can pull it off. I certainly do, for everyone’s sake.
Okay?
Of course Malcolm, I agree.