Their Move

Lewis Amselem, a.k.a. “Diplomad”, has put up a rousing post on the Soleimani hit. Best of all, I think, was the bit at the end:

Now is the time openly to tell the Iranians that we do not want war, but they should want it much less. We should openly tell them that we will dismantle their oil production, their ability to generate electricity, to distribute water, to conduct financial operations, etc. We should tell them that their navy and air force are forfeit in the case of an action against us, and that we will degrade their ability to conduct all types of military operations. We will smash their proxy forces without mercy. On the other hand, we are open to talks with Tehran and stand ready to discuss all topics without preconditions. Meet us.

We also should quietly, once the current cloud of dust settles, tell the clowns in Baghdad that we are leaving. They are not worth the life a single American.

Read the whole thing here.

8 Comments

  1. Jacques says

    If QS was a murderer and therefore deserved to die, isn’t that also true of GWB or Obama, or the military people who carried out their orders? Why are the actions of Iran in its own backyard, pursuing its own interests in the face of American and Saudi and Israeli threats, so much worse morally than the actions of the US halfway around the world? How many hundreds of thousands have been killed and displaced by the US or its proxy fighters?

    If Hitler deserved to die, why not those responsible for so much death and agony–almost all the victims being non-combatants–in the bombing of Dresden and Hiroshima?

    The US runs amok all over the world, overthrowing regimes and replacing them with nothing. Leaving chaos and civil war. Doing nothing to help the victims. The US funds insane terrorists, endlessly meddles secretly in the internal affairs of other nations. The idea that the US is in a position to pass moral judgment on some nation like Iran, then “punish” some other nation or some supposedly bad individual, is absurd.

    Really these moral assessments are irrelevant. The US did not murder Qaddafi because he was a bad man who deserved to die, and the US is not friends with the rulers of Saudi Arabia because they are such wonderful upstanding people who deserve to live.

    Endless meddling and warfare in the middle east does not in any way serve the interests of ordinary people over here. It is for oil, I guess, and for Israel. Which never has to fight, but simply calls up its American janissaries. Ordinary people in Iran or Iraq will suffer and die so that the global ruling class can get what it wants. If things really heat up then deluded and deceived little people in America will be sent to be killed and mutilated. It’s grotesque. If only Trump were doing what he said he’d do: bring the troops home; no more endless pointless wars; fix the infrastructure and help Americans. The enemy of the American people is not Iran but the American ruling class.

    Posted January 6, 2020 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
  2. c matt says

    The enemy of the American people is not Iran but the American ruling class.

    Which is to say, the enemy of the American people is the American people. There is no ruling class without subjects. And as long as the subjects are sufficiently placated, the ruling class rules.

    Posted January 6, 2020 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
  3. Anonymous says

    Your defense of Zion Don is surprising. He may not have had anything to do with this but what we do know is that Israel and the billionaire Zionists Adelson, Marcus and Singer have hijacked American foreign policy. They’ve been itching from this war since 79. This is a show by Israel, and for Israel. There is no reason for the US to be there except to cause unending instability in the ME for ‘our greatest ally.’ If this turns into a war how many more middle easteners are going to flood into Europe and the US as a result? This is a joke and just demonstrates the impotence of boomers: no wall, no end to illegal immigration, unending legal immigration, narcos increasingly operating in the US, growing debt economy, no manufacturing, the vassalization of the US, unlimited pansexualization and tranny nonsense, but ‘boom’ we killed a bad guy. Joke.

    Posted January 6, 2020 at 4:07 pm | Permalink
  4. JK says

    It’s simple really. We inhabit the world as we do, as it is. Not what it was.

    What we’ve done thus far hasn’t worked. No others in DC have any alternatives.

    Let Trump take his shot.

    Back when I was a wee tyke the standard refrain from every Miss America hopeful was a wish for “Peace in the Middle East” and the last time I watched whichever it was was more decades ago than I enjoy to recount.

    Maybe there’s no use and so we may as well accept the way that its been.

    But maybe not.

    Posted January 6, 2020 at 5:36 pm | Permalink
  5. Malcolm says

    Hi Jacques,

    Really these moral assessments are irrelevant.

    Right. Was there ever a nation, or for that matter, a person, who having attained great power, didn’t use it? Was there ever a kingdom or nation of overwhelming might that didn’t swagger around exerting its will?

    If only Trump were doing what he said he’d do: bring the troops home; no more endless pointless wars; fix the infrastructure and help Americans.

    If only, indeed. “‘Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.” As Diplomad said, that place isn’t worth the life of a single American. (And while we’re at it, we can get the hell out of NATO and the UN.)

    The enemy of the American people is not Iran but the American ruling class.

    Well, the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

    Posted January 6, 2020 at 7:12 pm | Permalink
  6. Malcolm says

    Anonymous,

    …no wall, no end to illegal immigration, unending legal immigration, narcos increasingly operating in the US, growing debt economy, no manufacturing, the vassalization of the US, unlimited pansexualization and tranny nonsense…

    Yes, this is only a partial list of the things that make this boomer feel depressingly, dispiritingly impotent.

    One can, however, acknowledge all of that while being glad to be rid of that Soleimani fellow. It’s certainly better than sending Tehran billions in cash.

    Posted January 6, 2020 at 7:23 pm | Permalink
  7. Tina says

    “If only Trump were doing what he said he’d do: bring the troops home; no more endless pointless wars; fix the infrastructure and help Americans.”

    Does no one remember that he set out to do just that, to bring the troops home and put an end to NATO, right after he was elected, but the GOP House and the GOP Senate both quickly “resolved” to forbid him from doing so, in 2017 and the House and Senate balked again in early 2019? How short our memories are!

    Posted January 6, 2020 at 8:52 pm | Permalink
  8. Malcolm says

    Tina,

    Thanks for commenting.

    Regarding NATO, my understanding is that President Trump has the unilateral power, absent an explicit act of Congress denying him that power, to withdraw the U.S. from the treaty. There have been bills introduced in Congress to do just that (such as this one), but they haven’t become law.

    The idea that we still need to be in this obsolete agreement, lest Russian tanks roll through the Fulda Gap, would be laughable if it didn’t still command such widespread assent in Washington. Had NATO expired when the first Cold War ended, we wouldn’t now be in a second, more dangerous one.

    Posted January 6, 2020 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

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