Motus Mentis

6 Comments

1. DaveB says

   Wow. That was a lot of information given very quickly.
   I do not have the expertise to weigh any of his claims, unfortunately, but I will certainly consider them if I have to make a choice re: further vaccines, down the road.
   Thanks.

   Posted November 29, 2021 at 4:52 pm | Permalink
2. Malcolm says

   Dave,

   I will certainly consider them if I have to make a choice re: further vaccines, down the road.

   “If”? I think the only doubt on that score is whether it will still be a choice.

   Posted November 29, 2021 at 5:31 pm | Permalink
3. DaveB says

   Dang it, when you’re right, you’re right: it is ‘when’ not ‘if’ – to my shame I still have remnants of the ‘normalcy bias’ even after the past 4 years of constant media mendacity and the rise of Faucism.
   My bad! :-)

   Posted November 30, 2021 at 9:57 am | Permalink
4. JK says

   In addressing the geographic scope of the preliminary injunction, due to the nationwide scope of the CMS Mandate, a nationwide injunction is necessary due to the need for uniformity. Texas, 809 F.3d at 187-88. Although this Court considered limiting the injunction to the fourteen Plaintiff States, there are unvaccinated healthcare workers in other states who also need protection. Therefore, the scope of this injunction will be nationwide, except for the states of Alaska, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, New Hampshire, Nebraska, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, since these ten states are already under a preliminary injunction order dated November 29, 2021, out of the Eastern District of Missouri.

   Imagine that, a court that reads, and heeds, the 10th Amendment!

   https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.185837/gov.uscourts.lawd.185837.28.0.pdf

   Posted December 3, 2021 at 1:43 pm | Permalink
5. Martin says

   It might get taken down because it’s complete misinformation. This guy says that there were 15 all-cause deaths in the vaccine group and 14 in the placebo group. This is true. But none of these deaths were caused by the vaccine or COVID, and so tell us nothing about the efficacy of the vaccine. The study in question was not designed to look at the effectiveness of the vaccine in preventing deaths but in preventing symptomatic illness, for which you’d need a larger sample size.

   The other points he makes are similarly wrong. For example, he says that the CDC classifies any death, no matter the cause, as a COVID death if it happens within 28 days of a positive test. This is just complete nonsense. Doctors at the local level determine cause of death. CDC provides no guidance on those.

   Finally, this guy is an orthopedic surgeon, not a virologist or infectious disease specialist.

   How is the human race going to survive long-term when misinformation like this spreads so easily, and is believed so readily by so many?

   Posted December 5, 2021 at 12:49 am | Permalink
6. Malcolm says

   Martin,

   … this guy is an orthopedic surgeon, not a virologist or infectious disease specialist.

   I consider ad hominem arguments like this completely disqualifying. This man has a doctorate in medical science, and is certainly capable of reading and understanding published medical studies and data. But if this is your angle, then what are your qualifications to pronounce on these matters? Why should we take you seriously?

   This guy says that there were 15 all-cause deaths in the vaccine group and 14 in the placebo group.

   Actually, there were 20 in the vaccine group, if you want to get picky about it.

   But none of these deaths were caused by the vaccine or COVID…

   And you know this how?

   Doctors at the local level determine cause of death. CDC provides no guidance on those.

   Obviously doctors are the ones who report the deaths to the CDC; it isn’t as if the CDC has agents standing by every deathbed in America filling out the reports.

   As for CDC providing “no guidance”: well, that’s just misinformation. CDC does in fact provide elaborate guidance, which invites the reporting doctor to list cause of death both underlying and immediate, and also to report comorbidities – which obviously would include mentioning if the patient had COVID at the time of death. I have no idea how the CDC aggregates that information. Neither, I suspect, do you.

   Posted December 5, 2021 at 10:24 pm | Permalink